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My Experience With PH Water &#38; Water Ionizers:&#160;
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<div align="center" style="">&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 0); ">The True Story About Tyent And Cheap Ionizers!</span></div>
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<div align="center" style=""><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: small; "><span style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span">Great story from one of our team member friends who bought a Tyent<br /></span></span></p>
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<div style=""><span style="font-size: small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">My Experience With PH Water &amp; Water Ionizers:</span></span>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="">I was sold on the science and the benefits of elevating our body&#8217;s pH level several years ago.</div>
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<div style="">After doing my own extensive research on the subject, I discussed it with my sister who was both a senior nurse practitioner and a chemist.</div>
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<div style="">She concurred that by whatever method you can raise your body&#8217;s pH level from acidic to alkaline, be it through diet or drinking alkaline water, it would be a good thing for maintaining a healthy body.</div>
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<div style="">A few years ago I tried a product called Miracle II Neutralizer which was a high pH solution that typically sold in gallons for 20 some dollars per gallon.</div>
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<div style="">Although I believed in the science and theory behind the product, I never experienced or found any credible evidence that it helped in any way.</div>
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<div style="">As I recently found out about Kangen Water and other ionized alkaline water, I discovered the problem with the Miracle II Neutralizer was that it did not have a low negative ORP (oxidation-reduction potential). Without a low ORP factor the high pH-alkaline and anti-oxidant benefits could not be realized.</div>
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<div style="">So my conclusion was that you had to have both a high pH- alkaline water that also has a low (-300mV to -700mV) ORP.</div>
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<div style="">The other method would be to only eat high alkaline foods, like certain berries, nuts and dark green leafy stuff, and no good stuff at all like meat, fish, poultry and potatoes. It didn&#8217;t sound like an appetizing diet to me, so I chose to go the water route.</div>
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<div style="">Sooo, my good friends Steve &amp; Pam Hoyt started to bring me jugs of &#8220;Kangen&#8221; Water.</div>
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<div style="">After drinking it for a while I quickly saw results. I felt better overall both physically and mentally. I had more energy and was much more mentally astute.</div>
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<div style="">I had had arthritis in one ankle, one knee and one shoulder for years and I noticed that they all improved also.</div>
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<div style="">But perhaps most important to me is the Kangen Water&#8217;s potential to benefit my long term health, such as possibly lowering the risk factor for many diseases and sicknesses.</div>
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<div style="">Well, even though my friends would have brought me all the Kangen Water I wanted indefinitely, I decided that I just had to have one of these water machines of my own.</div>
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<div style="">I knew that the Enagic Kangen Water ionizer was expensive, so I did extensive research on alternative (less expensive) ionizer machines.</div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">That turned out to be a huge mistake.</span></div>
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<div style="">There is an enormous amount of seemingly &#8220;unbiased&#8221; information, test comparisons (with videos) and supposedly unbiased reviews all over the internet.</div>
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<div style="">The bulk of these reviews compare one or more ionizers to the Enagic Leveluk SD501. They always point out that, although the Enagic ionizer is a great unit, it is over priced due to the MLM compensation plan to their distributors. The truth is that at least several of the other leading ionizer manufacturers have an even steeper compensation plan for their &#8220;referral distributors&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t know any of this at the time of my initial research, so I bought into their claims and &#8220;drank the koolaid&#8221; so-to-speak.</div>
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<div style="">After all my research, I ended up purchasing a Tyent MMP-7070, their top-line ionizer unit. It had consistently beaten the competition, including Jupiter, Life and, of course, the Enagic.</div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span"><img src="http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/images/tyent7070.jpg" alt="Tyent 7070" align="left" />&nbsp;The Tyent MMP-7070</span></div>
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<div style="">It was a very sleek looking attractive ionizer which was roughly half the price of the Enagic Leveluk SD501 so I initially thought I had made the right decision.</div>
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<div style="">I set it up and started using it and at first I only had a pH test kit with drops in order to test the machines capability. I didn&#8217;t have any means of testing the ORP factor.</div>
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<div style="">The pH test left me wondering because&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">the results were not what I expected</span>, especially in its ability to produce acidic (low pH) water.</div>
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<div style="">I had wanted one any way to also help in maintaining my pool water, so I purchased a Hanna Instruments electronic pH/ORP meter. Extremely accurate.</div>
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<div style="">As I became more and more familiar with the machine&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">I realized how easy it was to skew the results of the ionizer test comparisons, which were supposedly legitimate and unbiased</span>, such as simply lowering the source water pressure for the unit that you want to have the best results. With a little bit of water pressure manipulating, they could have made any one of the machines appear to be the best.</div>
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<div style="">Anyway,&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">I started testing my water with my accurate tester and confirmed my suspicions.</span></div>
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<div style="">With full tap water pressure, the highest alkaline pH water I could get was 9.0pH with an ORP of -150mV, not very good at all.</div>
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<div style="">The lowest acidic pH (beauty water) that I could get was 7.0pH, which is neutral, not acidic at all. My tap water tested at 7.2pH.</div>
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<div style="">Next, I lowered the water pressure down to the slowest the machine would allow and retested.</div>
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<div style="">The highest alkaline pH I got was 9.65pH.</div>
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<div style="">The lowest acidic pH I got was still only 7.0pH, even with the lowered water pressure.</div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">Oh, and a couple of other notable facts:</span></div>
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<div style="">1) The water pressure had to be reduced so much to make 9.5pH drinking water that it would take over five minutes to fill a gallon jug.</div>
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<div style="">2) The Tyent machine automatically shuts down after five minutes to prevent overheating. Not so with the Enagic machine.</div>
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<div style="">I contacted &#8220;Jim R.&#8221; (no last name provided) at Tyent USA who was apparently the one and only tech support person. I informed him of all the test results, along with what method and test equipment I used.&nbsp;</div>
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<div style="">He seemed to think that the numbers were abnormal, so he told me to email him the dates on the two filters in the unit.&nbsp;</div>
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<p>I emailed him the filter dates, which were recent, and didn&#8217;t get any response from him, so I emailed them to him again. Still no response.&nbsp;</p>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I got that uneasy feeling like he was avoiding me, so I called the tech support number and Jim answered the phone.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">At first he seemed surprised that I called him, but then acknowledged getting the email and forgetting about it.<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">After a little resistance, he agreed to send me a new machine and I would return the alleged defective machine.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">The new machine arrived and I immediately set it up and re-did all my testing.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">Almost identical numbers!&nbsp; Now I&#8217;m getting really perturbed and frustrated over this.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I&#8217;ve got a water ionizer machine, which is probably not defective at all, that you have run the water pressure at a trickle to get acceptable drinking water and it is totally incapable of producing any acidic water at all. But hey, it sure does look sleek and nice though, doesn&#8217;t it?</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">I called Jim again and he at first tried to blame my source water as the problem and then he asks me &#8220;do you really need acidic (beauty) water anyway?&#8221;</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I informed him that I live in a major city and that there is nothing wrong with the city tap water that I&#8217;m using.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">At that point I asked him very nicely if I could return the machine and get a refund. I was worried that he would say no due to the fact that my &#8220;trial period&#8221; had just recently expired. He said that was not a problem and that I could return it, but he pleaded with me to wait 2-3 weeks because Tyent was aware of this problem and they were about to come out with a new &#8220;motherboard&#8221; for the machine which should fix it. He also assured me that he would extend my trial period.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">He just then acknowledged that Tyent was aware of this problem?</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I stuck to my guns and said no to the wait, and that I just wanted to return it. I wanted a water ionizer that performed as it was designed and advertised to perform.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">He gave in and said okay.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I then made about 12 gallons of water (yea, that took quite awhile) to tide us over for some time and packed up the machine to return it the next day.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">We went to dinner with our friends Steve &amp; Pam (Enagic Distributors) and talked about water, ionizers and my frustrating experience with the Tyent machine.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I was already pretty sure the Enagic Leveluk SD501 would perform as expected, but after my experience, I wanted to be sure.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">I asked them if they would&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">bring their Enagic machine over to my house where we could accurately test it using my source water</span>, just in case there really was a source water issue as they live in a different part of town than us.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">
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<p><img src="http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/images/watermaker_sd501.jpg" alt="Enagic SD501" align="right" />The Enagic Leveluk SD501</span></span></div>
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<p>So we finished dinner and they went home, loaded up their machine and brought it over to our house.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">We ran all the tests and sure as can be, The Enagic performed just as it should and we were all happy that it did.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">Sorry about my little puppy nipping your rear end Steve.&nbsp; <img src='http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess we should have paid him more attention.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">So the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with my source tap water.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">The Tyent ionizer just could not do what it was supposed to do and the Enagic ionizer had no problem.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">I guess you really do get what you pay for.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">As soon as I confirmed that Tyent was really going to refund my money, I called Steve and Pam and ordered the Cadillac of water ionizers, the Enagic Leveluk SD501.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">Tyent did end up issuing a refund, minus a $300 restocking fee.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">I just feel badly for all the people who have bought these inferior water ionizers and don&#8217;t even realize their machines are not performing as they think they are.</span></span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">Thank God, I invested in that electronic Ph/ORP tester that I did, or I probably would not have realized it either.</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; ">Thank you,</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 0); font-size: x-small; "><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span">Wade A.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people that are suffering from cancer and other ailments find benefits for their health with <a href="http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/">alkaline water</a>. One cancer patient that was shocked to learn he was suffering from an extremely rare cancer turned to <a href="http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/alkalizing.php/">alkaline water</a>, like that created by a <a href="http://www.phdrinkingwater.com/watermaker.php">Kangen water machine</a>, as a part of his preparations for his battle with the illness.  Michael Smith was suffering with PMP, a cancer that only affects one in a million and covers the organs in a sticky slime. Read more about Smith and his <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/315802_pmp16.html" target="_new">battle with cancer</a>.</p>
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